How Can the Church Approve Masonry?

TIA,

I am currently in a discussion regarding freemasonry as it appears in the Catholic Church. I would like to use links to your site but need to know if you are sedevacantists. The group that I’m talking with won’t even consider anything provided by a sede site, not even if non sede sites are part of the information, they have their heads firmly buried in the sand.

So... are you sede or not?

     Thank you for all the information you provide. It’s important to know all the truth.

     L.C.

Check it out here.   It’s your FAITH!

“Nolo salvus esse sine vobis! … I don’t want to be saved without you!” St Augustine



The Editor responds:

Hello L.C.,

No, we are not sede-vacantist. The sede-vacantists are among the most furious critics of our work.

We accept the present Popes as popes. Our position is to obey the present day Popes in everything they do that follows the previous magisterium of the Church. In the things where they oppose it, we offer a respectful resistance.

You may make links to our website as needed. It is a usual practice on the Internet.

     Cordially,

     Atila Guimaraes, editor of TIA website

TIA,

Thank you, thank you! I’m about to send off the following and now I will include a link to your webpage. I’ve been ‘chastised’ for wondering why Pope Benedict would appoint a known freemason to the Science academy.

Never said the Pope was a heretic. Never said anything like that. Are some of the decisions that come from Rome confusing to some Catholics? Yes. Do Catholics that don’t really know much since they were raised post V2 even know they should be confused? No, because they don’t know enough to BE confused or to question.

Freemasons in the Church? Yes, of course. Why would anyone doubt it, how could anyone doubt it?

Pope Leo tried to protect against Modernism and Freemasonry, and I don’t know how he could have been clearer. That more recent Popes have softened regarding freemasons is also clear. So who was right? Would the SSPX be separated from the Church now if Pope Leo’s declarations had been upheld?

Would the Church be in the crisis that she is in now if we had held against Modernism which is really ecumenism, which is an excellent way of diluting the truth of Catholicism thereby destroying it from within? And you certainly cannot deny ecumenism when the JPII allowed Hindus to have a ceremony in the Fatima Shrine or toplace a statue of Buddha on top of the Tabernacle and worship it at Assisi. Cardinal Ratzinger even refused to go to the Assisi meeting then, although he has done the same himself since then.

Who are the freemasons? It doesn’t matter what their names are or what their ranks are if they are in the Church or if they only work to subvert the Church from within their own ranks by enlisting Catholic’s to their “lodges” then subverting from that vantage point. If you’ve read the testimony of Bella Dodd you know that infiltration of the Church was a fact. If the communists could figure it out I think the masons could figure it out too.... I think they did.

A freemason, Eliph Levi said in 1862: "A day will come when the pope, inspired by the Holy Spirit will declare that all the excommunications are lifted and all the anathemas are retracted, when all the Christians will be united within the Church, when the Jews and Moslems will be blessed and called back to her … she will permit all sects to approach her by degrees and will embrace all mankind in the communion of her love and prayers. Then, Protestants will no longer exist. Against what will they be able to protest? The sovereign pontiff will then be truly king of the religious world, and he will do whatever he wishes with all the nations of the earth."

Sound familiar? Didn’t the SSPX recently celebrate that their excommunication was lifted? Didn’t Pope Benedict just welcome a multi religious cultural center ??? I can’t find the link now but talk about confusing!

I’m not pointing fingers screaming freemason... The mason that appointed to the Science Academy go to this link, which is a freemason link not a catholic speculation link.

Read the central column. I didn’t download the program necessary to listen to the discussion because I don’t speak Spanish but just read that central column. Then if you look in the far left column you will see a blue bird and directly below that is the announcement of the “Brother” who has been appointed to the Science Academy.

Recently in our old parish, the priest told everyone a story about a young man who committed suicide. This was his Homily, his teaching to the faithful. Our priest had known his father, they were magician buddies. The son had no church affiliation. The father had no church affiliation. The father and mother were never married and her affiliation with a church was never mentioned.

Father didn’t have a problem presiding over a funeral Mass for this young man who was an active mason, with no ties to the Catholic Church or any church. He had no problem allowing the young man’s fellow active lodge members assist at Mass and to participate actively in that Mass. His point was that you have to be welcoming to all...

I understand that through the priests kindness to this man he might be brought into the Church, but what will he find there? Might it not have been better for Father to explain that the son could not really be buried from the Church BUT that he would be happy to officiate unofficially at the gravesite or something like that.... then through follow up care, try to bring the father into the Church? Showing kindness and truth at the same time???

Not one time did he mention that Catholics are still prohibited from joining a Masonic group. So what was his message? I’m okay, you’re okay, we’re all just one big happy family. So the next time one of the several hundred parishioners that heard this “teaching” sermon are approached by a mason for membership will the Catholic know he should not join? Or WHY he should not join. What would the average post Vatican II Catholic take from this? Freemasonry must be okay?

I’m not pointing fingers and screaming heretic... I’m trying to figure out what is going on within my Church? So why is that so upsetting? I just want to understand? I thought that is what forums such as this were for? I didn’t realize that anytime a question was broached there would be a problem. Aren’t you in kind of pointing fingers shouting “sede, sede!” when someone asks questions like this? I’m not ‘speculating’ I’m trying to resolve in my mind the confusing information that comes from the pulpit, the Vatican, Church teachings and documents? How else do you learn anything?

Another link you may already know about is Tradition in Action, here, it is not sede, do a search on freemasonry.

     L.C.

Check it out here. It’s your FAITH!

“Nolo salvus esse sine vobis! … I don’t want to be saved without you!” St Augustine