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Photos Confirm Secret
People Commenting
Dear Mr. Guimaraes,

Without making a judgment on the authenticity of this text and the theological implications or even reality of the Faith being preserved in Fatima and no longer Rome, did you happen to see the corresponding pictures from this website?

Maybe you could post these on TIA's website as they are certainly illustrative of the descriptions in the letter.

Very, very, troubling...

     JMJ,

     B.D.
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Benedict XVI Favoring Communism
People Commenting
TIA,

I have been disturbed about Benedic's Letter to China since you posted your several analyses of it (here, here, here, here and here). At first I thought you had misinterpreted. But it is clear that the Holy Father is asking the Underground Church to show more tolerance to the mainland, and even to participate in those Masses if they so choose.

I just read that this recent news article that thousands in China are being sterilized for violating the country's one-child policy. This has, of course, been going on for a long time. How can the Church dialogue with a regime that blatantly and openly goes against the teaching of the Church on family and procreation? It seems impossible. I believe once it was impossible, but once again, we are seeing the results of Vatican II.

Sad to say, everyone has become so used to dealings and compromises with Communist countries and leaders that no one even protests anymore. I believe that this fits with the possible Third Message of Fatima that you recently printed. The apostasy comes from the top. The only way to clean Rome is to destroy it.

     In Jesus, Mary, and Joseph

     A.G.
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Cornerstone Moved to Fatima
People Commenting
Dear TIA,

Regarding your Third Secret of Fatima posting: how frightening this information is, and it possesses a great deal of truth.

After reading about the ugly cement church, I couldn't help but think of the new basilica in Fatima. While researching photos of it, looking for a "beak (or "break," which it has in its lines) in the roof," I came across the following online information.

The new Fatima basilica does indeed look like a "gray cement fortress," as mentioned in this letter. The architect for this church, chosen from an international design competition, was Greek Orthodox, and he designed it to have 13 doors, said to represent Christ's last supper with the 12 apostles. This is, of course, not to say that it is the church described in your posting, but it is a striking example of what was shown to the writer of that letter.

The modern Fatima basilica lends the letter great credibility, especially since it is located in an area of which Sr. Lucy would be most familiar. It is highly likely that Our Lady would show a vision of a known locale to the unworldly seers, who may recognize such a building in a foreign area as being a fortress and not a church.

One of the prophecies or articles listed in the third secret letter you have posted is "In the kingdom of John Paul II the cornerstone of Peter's grave must be removed and transferred to Fatima." John Paul II is reported by the press to have transferred marble from the tomb of St. Peter to Fatima, to be the symbolic "first stone" for the new basilica. This was blessed by John Paul II and laid on June 6, 2004, sixty years after the writing of the letter.

If, indeed, this letter was written in 1944, events leading up to and including our day lend it great authenticity.

Thank you for posting this information about the world's most longed-for message of Our Lady.

     Salve Maria,

     K.C.
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No Fold Marks
People Commenting
TIA,

The date is definitely April. The facsimile shows no evidence of the letter having been folded.

J.F.
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The Date Is January 9, 1944
People Commenting
Dear Tradition in Action,

My research comes from the book The Devil's Final Battle, edited by Fr. Paul Kramer [1st edition, 2002, pp. 27-35].

The secret is on "one sheet of paper about 20-25 lines long and the margins are 3/4 centimeters." Bishop de Silva [the Bishop of Fatima] held the secret up to the light to garner these details.

Sr. Lucy wrote the Bishop on January 9, 1944 and told him the secret had been put to paper. I would offer for your consideration that the date on the sheet is actually "January 9, 1944" and not either September 1 or April 1, 1944.

In addition to handwriting analysis which you had mentioned, I believe that the fingerprint on the bottom of the page could be the definitive way to prove it's from Sr. Lucy if a print can be found from her earlier days, not from the 2nd counterfeit "Sr. Lucy."

Please pray for Fr. Nicholas Gruner and his colleagues who will be in Rome this week, May 3-7, to challenge any and all comers on the facts that the 3rd Secret has not been revealed and Russia has not been consecrated to Our Lady.

I called Fr. Gruner's organization, the Fatima Network, on Friday and directed them to your website and they printed up a copy of this recent 3rd Secret so that they would have the most updated information.

     Thanks for all your efforts,

     R.D.
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Evil Council Not Mentioned
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Dear TIA,

I have some info from The Fatima Crusader [issue 80, page 32]. Father Paul Kramer gave a speech in 2005 where he stated that he knew of a professor/priest who was a close friend of John Paul II and Cardinal Ratzinger. He pressed the Cardinal into admitting that the whole text of the third secret was not released and that the message explicitly mentions an evil council and changes in the liturgy.

This seems to go with Cardinal Pacelli's lament about "the suicide of altering the Faith in the liturgy."

     May God bless and keep you.

     J.S.
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Interpreting the Previous '3rd Secret'
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Dear TIA,

Any Catholic who knows his faith knows that the 'New Order' cannot justify their new teachings to the Gospel or to tradition. For those who want prophesy to also condemn the 'New Order' - they need not wait for the last part of the Fatima secret to be revealed.

The revealed third part of the prophesy is more then enough to provide this. Any of the Apostles, Patristic Fathers, Doctors of the Church or great saints would have had a field day explaining its meanings. My feeble attempt to paraphrase them follows.

At the left of Our Lady and a little above, we saw an Angel with a flaming sword in his left hand; flashing, it gave out flames that looked as though they would set the world on fire; but they died out in contact with the splendor that Our Lady radiated towards him from her right hand: pointing to the earth with his right hand, the Angel cried out in a loud voice: 'Penance, Penance, Penance!'. Repent sinners and avoid damnation.

And we saw in an immense light that is God: 'something similar to how people appear in a mirror when they pass in front of it'. Everything in a mirror is reversed, truths are now lies, good is now bad, unholy is now holy.

a Bishop dressed in White. White, the symbol of purity, Reversed in the mirror the Periti of the Second Vatican Council. The dark princes.

we had the impression that it was the Holy Father' How can one not be sure that it is the Pope? The New Order has redefined the papacy to a titular title. The Pope is only a bishop, but first in rank of all other bishops, no longer crowned. A pope but not a pope.

Other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious going up a steep mountain, The mountain is the Church, the new Jerusalem,

at the top of which there was a big Cross of rough-hewn trunks as of a cork-tree with the bark; A cross without a corpus, a Protestant cross. The cork-tree has its wood harvested from its bark, the inside of the tree is not valued. A superficial cross, no depth, veneer only, a man made religion .

before reaching there the Holy Father passed through a big city half in ruins and half trembling All major cities can almost be described as new Sodom and Gomorrahs. Physical and moral states of ruin. Modernists strongholds. The poor trembling with concern for the new oppressions. Rome falls into this category.

with halting step, Not sure what to do. Vacillating on teachings, dogmatic truths.

afflicted with pain and sorrow, he prayed for the souls of the corpses he met on his way; How many good priests have been driven from the seminaries, betrayed and/or killed by a Communist Pole or a Marxist, Socialist German in their rise within their parties and the church.

having reached the top of the mountain, The Papacy.

on his knees at the foot of the big Cross he was killed by a group of soldiers Not military soldiers but soldiers in the Communist, Marxist, Zionist, and Masonic armies.

who fired bullets Not from guns, but bullets from new philosophies, and unsound teachings.

and arrows at him, The arrow is a highly phallic image, when used in penetrating it means the de-masculinization in this case of the clergy.

and in the same way there died one after another the other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious, and various lay people of different ranks and positions. The sad epitaph of all heresies: And many Bishops, Priests and people were led astray. It is reasonable to add the Councilar Popes.

Beneath the two arms of the Cross there were two Angels, each with a crystal aspersorium in his hand, in which they gathered up the blood of the Martyrs The new martyrs are not killed but ostracized. They that weep the blood of tears and prayers for this neo-pagan world, knowing what is to come. They that keep tradition and pass it to the next generation.

and with it sprinkled the souls that were making their way to God. It does not say all souls! There is no universal salvation outside the Catholic Church.

     Yours in Faith,

     R.R.
Posted May 4, 2010

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