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Explosion of Hatred from Sede-Vacantists
You Are Scandalous & Calumnious
I wish to complain in the strongest terms to your recent calumny against Pope Pius IX. Freemasons came up with this calumny because they were denounced in no uncertain terms by Pope Pius IX. I find it disgraceful that TIA should repeat this fiction and calumny.
I know why you are behaving in this way; in order to accept the Judaic, blasphemous, Christ-hating, Catholic-hating, Judaic-loving Marxist, Jorge Bergoglio, as pope which no Catholic could do, you need to find “evidence” of a true pope having done something very wrong even if the “evidence” doesn’t hold up to scrutiny.
Your hatred of the “sedevacantist” belief that there is no pope at all is understandable because sedevacantism rather goes against the grain.
It is quite possible to adopt a third way; that there is a reigning but not-yet-ruling pope somewhere – provided to us in these trying times. There are many prophesies which support this view including St Nicholas of Flue who tells us that the true pope will come back to confront the antipope when God decides this should happen. Anne Catherine Emmerich also mentions something similar.
In my opinion it is necessary that there be indeed a reigning pope now just as it is necessary – in order to remain Catholic – publically to reject Jorge Bergolglio as pope.
I hope you will make a public retraction for your scandalous calumny against Pope Pius IX.
Yours sincerely,
N.W., England
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Calumnious Miscreants
What a shame that you have sunken so low as to drag the Saintly Pope Pius IX's name through the mud just to justify and uphold your erroneous opinion that a heretic can be a true pope. Sadly, you even resort to using freemasonic sources to substantiate your error.
If you just bothered to do more than a crumb of research about the great Pope Pius IX, you would have realized that he was deeply offended by the accusations claiming he was a freemason. This is the sin of calumny against a true and very holy pope and for the sake of your soul I suggest you retract the article immediately.
When I read an article such as this, it reminds me of the tactics that miscreants like the Dimond brothers use to bolster their erroneous opinions.
Sincerely,
Dr. L.T.
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Unjustified Publication
I read your website regularly even though I am a ‘Sedevacantist’!
I was shocked to read this article where you seemed to support the claim that Pope Pius IX was a Freemason! This article here indeed left a sour taste in my mouth after I read it. It showed that ALL the evidences you are using for this accusation came from the Masons themselves!
How then can we establish any epistemic justification for such an accusation when Masons, as grand enemies of the Church can cook up anything.
The website, Novusordowatch.com, another website I read regularly called this stooping so low and I agree.
Would you care to clarify and comment on the fact that there is no proper justification for this if all you have are various publications of the Masons,
In Christ,
M.I, Nigeria
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You Betrayed the Vicar of Christ, the Papacy & Holy Mother Church
to implicate Pope Pius IX in Freemasonry
Semi-Trads hit new low…
The web site Tradition in Action (TIA) is, for the most part, a pretty good resource exposing and refuting the errors of the Vatican II Sect. However, the editors of TIA are dyed-in-the-wool semi-traditionalists, that is, they oppose Sedevacantism and stubbornly adhere to the recognize-and-resist position instead, meaning they recognize Francis as Pope but also resist him because they realize he is an apostate who is trying to destroy Catholicism.
Thus, whenever TIA’s editors tackle anything related to the issue of Sedevacantism, all Catholicism goes out the window — and they end up spouting grave errors and scandalize their readers. For example, in the past they have outrageously attempted to draw parallels between Pope Benedict XV and the Novus Ordo Antipope Benedict XVI, and they have spread error on public heresy and Church membership(which at least they had the decency later to retract). But now, it seems they have descended to a new low: In what must be considered a desperate attempt to keep up the legitimacy of the Argentinian apostate “Pope Francis”, Tradition in Action has now repeated an old calumny against Pope Pius IX which alleges that the great nineteenth-century Supreme Pontiff was a member of the Freemasons before his election to the Papacy in 1846. What evidence do they provide for this incredibly serious charge against the Vicar of Christ? Nothing but the say-so of the Freemasons themselves!
Have a look at their post of Oct. 29, 2016:
• Masons Consider Pius IX Had Been One of Them (Tradition in Action)
It seems too outrageous to believe, but it is true: TIA quotes the sworn enemies of Christ and His Church against the very Vicar of Christ to cast doubt on his moral and doctrinal integrity! Whose side are you on, editors of TIA?
The accusation against Pope Pius IX is not new, and it has never been proved and instead ably refuted. This makes it all the more puzzling to see TIA bring it up again. We have dealt with this calumny before and also with the charge that “Pius IX was a liberal” when he was elected, which is a half-truth needing important qualification. Find the necessary information here:
• The Calumny against Pope Pius IX
More specifically, the charge that Pius IX had been a Freemason was examined in detail and refuted by Fr. Herbert Thurston, S.J., in his book No Popery! Chapters on Anti-Papal Prejudice (1930). We have scanned the relevant chapter and make it available here:
• “The Pope who was a Freemason” by Rev. Herbert Thurston, S.J. (PDF)
As the author shows, the various Masonic accusers cannot even get their story straight, differing just on when and where the young Giovanni Maria Mastai-Ferretti (the future Pius IX) supposedly entered the Lodge! Note that the title of Fr. Thurston’s article, “The Pope who was a Freemason”, is to be understood tongue-in-cheek. Pius IX, of course, was not a Freemason. Why, then, has Pius IX been accused of it? Why are there rumors about it?
A little bit of research goes a long way. It seems that at the origin of this calumny are the Freemasons themselves (shocker!). They appear to have made up this accusation against the Holy Father precisely in revenge for his severe condemnation of Freemasonry in 1865. According to one biography of the good Pope:
In the months that followed this public condemnation of Freemasonry, several Masonic publications in France and Italy, intent on revenge, propagated the story that Pius IX himself, in his youth, had been a Freemason.
Apparently it was the Lodge of Palermo that first put out the accusation… In France, the journal Le Monde Maçonnique immediately went into print with this information [in December 1865]. (Yves Chiron, Pope Pius IX: The Man and the Myth [Kansas City, MO: Angelus Press, 2005], pp. 217-218)
Pius IX had given an allocution on September 25, 1865, entitled Multiplices Inter Machinationes, in which he severely condemned Masonry and the Masons’ wicked secret scheming. We have obtained the full text of this allocution, translated it into English, and are now making it available — as an internet exclusive — here:
• Pope Pius IX, Allocution Multiplices Inter against Freemasonry (Sep. 25, 1865)
In short, the accusations against Pius IX are baseless and have in fact been demonstrated to be so.
Similar accusations against the Novus Ordo “popes”, on the other hand, are not at all baseless, for they (1) act like Masons; (2) speak like Masons; (3) embrace Masonic doctrine, something that cannot at all be said of Pius IX. In addition to that, the false popes of the Vatican II Sect sometimes even shake hands like Freemasons. See for yourself:
• The curious Handshakes of “Pope” Francis
• The curious Handshakes of “Pope” Benedict XVI
To be clear, however: It ultimately doesn’t matter whether any of the Vatican II “popes” were Masons or not. What matters is that they publicly behaved like Masons and not like Catholics — openly professing the doctrines of Freemasonry about human dignity, freedom, equality, indifferentism, etc. — for it is that which essentially makes one unable to be a legitimate Pope or even a member of the Catholic Church.
It is truly a tragedy to see Tradition in Action stoop so low as to recklessly throw Pope Pius IX under the bus in order to recoup some semblance of legitimacy for their apostate “Pope” Francis, scoring some cheap points against Sedevacantism. It is irresponsible to do something like that. How many souls will be confused and bewildered now! And for what? For Bergoglio! On their web site TIA claims that we sedevacantists are “blind-devotees of the Papacy” for refusing to believe Pius IX was a Mason before becoming Pope! Actually, the TIA editors are the ones who are blind in this, because their entire “case” against Pius IX consists of the testimony of Freemasons, whereas we have actually consulted historical sources dealing with the issue, as explained in this post. It is historythat disproves the charges against Pius IX, not some “blind devotion”, and it is Catholic dogma that prevents us from accepting a public non-Catholic as Pope.
As far as “blind devotion” goes, by the way, we hark back to the following words of St. Pius X, which presumably we will never see on the TIA web site:
When one loves the pope one does not stop to debate about what he advises or demands, to ask how far the rigorous duty of obedience extends and to mark the limit of this obligation. When one loves the pope, one does not object that he has not spoken clearly enough, as if he were obliged to repeat into the ear of each individual his will, so often clearly expressed, not only viva voce, but also by letters and other public documents; one does not call his orders into doubt on the pretext – easily advanced by whoever does not wish to obey – that they emanate not directly from him, but from his entourage; one does not limit the field in which he can and should exercise his will; one does not oppose to the authority of the pope that of other persons, however learned, who differ in opinion from the pope. Besides, however great their knowledge, their holiness is wanting, for there can be no holiness where there is disagreement with the pope. (Pope St. Pius X, Address to the Priests of the Apostolic Union, Nov. 18, 1912; in Acta Apostolicae Sedis 4 [1912], p. 695)
In addition, here are two excellent audios — both available free — explaining the importance of Catholic devotion to the Pope:
• The Ordinary Magisterium and Devotion to the Pope by Fr. Gabriel Lavery, CMRI
• Devotion to the Pope by Fr. Benedict Hughes, CMRI
Under the cover of providing “a contribution to the historical-theological-canonical debate”, TIA is spreading the calumnies of the Freemasons against one of the most glorious Popes the Catholic Church has ever had, apparently to put a dent into the credibility of Sedevacantism and to help keep Bergoglio illegitimately seated on the Throne of St. Peter. That’s what this is all about, and it shows a colossal lack of Catholic sense and judgment, to put it mildly. What TIA has done here is beyond outrageous and utterly reprehensible. They have betrayed the Vicar of Christ, the Papacy, and Holy Mother Church!
No, editors of TIA, there is no “deep malaise among sede-vacantists” about this, at least not among those who are informed enough to know that the whole story about the “Masonic” Pius IX is bogus.
Yes, it is true that we “do not admit that a Freemason can be elected a Pope” — at least not a public one, because the religion of Freemasonry is obviously heretical and not compatible with Catholicism. Public heretics, we recall, are not members of the Church and thus cannot be elected Pope:
• Public Heretics and Loss of Office
• TIA gets it wrong again on Public Heretics
Ah, there we go again — we’ve come full circle with Tradition in Action. Their fundamental error is that they do not understand or believe in the nature of the Papacy or the Catholic Church. That is the reason why they can defend the absurd idea that Jorge Bergoglio is the Pope of the Catholic Church — and why they think nothing of accusing Pope Pius IX of having been a Freemason.
Posted November 8, 2016
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A good example of this is the History of the Popes by Ludwig von Pastor. When he completed the multiple volumes of his work, paraphrasing, he said: “If the Church has not been destroyed after having these men as Popes, but instead became increasingly perfect, it is because she is divine.” Moved by this conclusion he, who was a Protestant, became a Catholic.
Different from this noble and courageous approach is that of one who covers the defects of past Popes, either because he has a weak faith or because he constructed erroneous theories about the Papacy that do not support the reality as it is. The sede-vacantists belong to this last group. They dishonestly manipulate the historical facts to fit their theories. They are even re-writing for their grass roots the history of the Popes who fell into heresies, because otherwise their theory would show itself to be evidently false.
We at TIA try to follow the first school. So, we do not have any problem in admitting that Pius IX, before being Pope, was a liberal and could have been a Mason. This does not mean that we do not admire the great Saint Pontiff he became; we do. We are not certain that he was a Mason. We have read this affirmation in many books written by good historians. Recently, we decided to publish some documents of Freemasonry that also affirm he was a Mason. This publication caused a sector of sede-vacantism to explode against us.
The e-mails we post today are good evidence that sede-vacantists care little about the historical reality. They did not even consider the obvious, which is that the documents published could be objective. If they are, they confirm many other such affirmations in non-masonic sources. But the sede-vacantist cannot admit this possibility.
So, to demonize and try to stop the investigation we started, they sent TIA the e-mails below, all using the same feeble accusation that we are calumniating Pius IX. This in itself is contradictory since the same sede-vacantists, who offend at their will all the Popes they deem invalid, now are overcome by a sudden horror when we raise an honest historical question about the early life of Pius IX. We find them dramatically pulling out their hair and shouting furiously against “calumniating” Pius IX; a position not so different from that of Muslims when they find someone criticizing Mahomet or the Koran.
We are not calumniating Pius IX; we are just investigating his past, as we habitually do with other Popes.
Their bogus horror seems to us an orchestrated diversion. They have to raise a curtain of smoke pretending that they are saving the honor of Pius IX. Self-invested in their position of heroes, they launch personal offenses against us, and allege that our intention is to support Pope Francis.
The unusual and childish character of this last allegation, as well as the timing of the e-mails that all flowed in at same time seem to reveal that the messages were requested by the same person: the editor of Novus Ordo Watch, Mr. Mario Derksen. Curiously, this important gentleman who decides who is pope and who is not and who is a true traditionalist or not, nonetheless, for some unknown reason never signs his articles. He throws his stones from behind a bush or by means of obedient fellow travelers.
The last of these stones against us is that we cannot quote the Masons because they always lie. The Masons do lie often, but sometimes they speak the truth. For example, when they say that today Freemasonry supports the same agenda as the Conciliar Popes.
We hope the exposition of these multiple attacks and the fury of their language will show our readers how the sede-vacantists use any artifice to avoid the historical reality when it goes against their own theories.
A.S. Guimarães