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Translation of Our Father to English

TIA,

Why do Catholics pray "forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us." but both the Latin and Douay Rheims say "forgive our debts as we forgive our debtors?"

     Thank you

     J.H.
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TIA responds:

J.H.,

The English translation of the Our Father is weak in this point. It should be “forgive our debts as we forgive our debtors.”

Unfortunately, it is not rare to find weak translation of prayers and papal documents from Latin to English. The English translations are habitually softened in regard to the originals.

This constant tendency leads us to ask whether or not there is a special order from somewhere to do this. We don’t have an answer to this question, but given the almost invariable rule of softening translations to English, we have the right to be suspicious.

     Cordially,

     TIA correspondence desk


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TIA & the Catholic Church


Good Day,

I am most interested and appreciative of your work in confronting the devastation of Vatican II. Accordingly, I purchased the 11-volume set on this subject recently. Congratulations on this incredible effort. Hopefully, it will have a major impact.

Questions: Do you recognize Pope Francis as Pope? Are you a member of the Roman Catholic Church or part of SSPX or a Sedevacantist? To me it makes no difference as long as you adhere to the teaching of the Church prior to Vatican II.

Many blessings on your work and Merry Christmas to you all,

     M.D.
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TIA responds:

Good day M.D.,

Thank you for your kind words about our work. We wish a good reading of the Collection Eli, Eli. Lamma sabacthani? on Vatican II.

Answering your questions:
  • Yes, we do recognize Pope Francis as a Pope;

  • We are members of the Catholic Church;

  • We are not part of SSPX;

  • We do not support Sede-vacantism.
On our position of resistance to the bad teaching of the Conciliar Popes, please read here, here, here, here, here and here;

On our criticism of SSPX, please read here, here, here and here;

On our difference on Sede-vacantism, please read here, here, here and here.

Merry Christmas and a Blessed New Year,

     Cordially,

     TIA correspondence desk


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You Have Arrived at Sede-Vacantism


Dear TIA,

I can only surmise that with your response (added below) to one of the hate mail entries, you have finally arrived at the sedevacantist conclusion.

After all, with your accurate description of our recent past popes, none of them could be considered Roman Catholic.

The sedevacantist conclusion is very sad but also very true.

Note from the Editor: No; the only difference is that the Popes now are as Protestant as Luther was – they consider Luther a prophet and justify Protestantism.

     S.J.S.
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TIA responds:

Dear S.J.S.,

We are sorry to disappoint you, but your conclusion is baseless.

We do agree that the Conciliar Popes defend Luther and Protestantism, as well as many other heresies. However, we believe that heretic Popes continue to have the powers of jurisdiction and order, although they misuse their power of teaching. Therefore, we defend that they are valid Popes and should be obeyed in everything that does not favor heresy. When they teach heresy, they should be resisted and Catholics should follow the previous Magisterium of the Church.

We do not believe that the sede-vacantist position is correct. It is a simplification for those who do not have the courage to accompany the Church in her present day Passion. Further, it leads the Church into even more chaos than that which we are experiencing and comes from the progressivist religious authority.

     Cordially,

     TIA correspondence desk


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Is There a Change in the Magisterium?

Hello TIA,

Hello,

I am wondering if there really is a change in the Magisterium made by Francis as remarked on this article. If communion for adulterous couples, who divorced and remarried, can be accepted as official magisterium of the Church wouldn't that be a sign he is not Pope?

     Thanks,

     T.F.
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TIA responds:

Hello T.F.,

If Pope Francis were to impose his wrong decision to give Communion to divorced and remarried Catholics, he certainly would go against the bi-millennial Magisterium of the Church and induce many people to profane the Holy Eucharist. We can discuss whether or not this is heresy, but this is clearly a grave rupture with the whole past tradition of the Church, which demanded that the recipients of Communion be in the state of sanctifying grace.

Now, regarding the question whether he stops being a Pope because of this, let us put the matter into perspective. We have witnessed conciliar Popes who for about 50 years have been preaching that all religions lead to salvation, which is an obvious heresy – the heresy of universal salvation, directed opposed to the dogma that only the Catholic Church leads to salvation – extra Ecclesiam nulla salus. This is only one of the heresies defended by the Popes after 1958.

As we affirmed in the previous answer, we defend that a Pope can adhere to a heresy and still continue to be a Pope, maintaining his power of jurisdiction and power of order. On other occasions, we have pointed out many cases in History where precedents of this situation occurred (here, here and here).

The conclusion is that, essentially speaking, the fact that Francis imposes his Communion for divorced and remarried Catholics does not create a new situation. We resistant Catholics have had to face similar situations in the teaching of dogmatic doctrine, in the liturgy, in canon law, in exegesis, in social doctrine etc. So, this grave contradiction of Francis is an unfolding consequence of the same Progressivism, in this case in moral doctrine.

If the previous conciliar Popes continued to be Popes after all they did in other fields, the fact of having a new moral development of the same error does not change the essence of the situation: He continues to be Pope, but should be resisted in his bad teaching.

This is our answer to your question.

     Cordially,

     TIA correspondence desk


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Catholic Youth Protest in France

Dear TIA,

Not too long ago, I reported to you a protest in Brussels, in which young Catholic men prayed the rosary out loud during an ecumenical ceremony in protest. Today, as I was reading the news, another one of these protests was reported, this time in France. Since this seems to be a repeat of past events, I thought I would do a little research. It was very easy to find the source.

It is for this reason that I am writing to you now: in principle, these young men are heroic, and are shining examples of the church's militancy, which is very refreshing in the midst of the Vatican's effeminate pacifism. However, it seems these young men are being used by "Catholic" organizations in Europe controlled by priests linked to the SSPX. This rally of young men in churches seems to be a new tactic to attract youth - who are naturally militant by nature - in order to advance a Catholic-nationalist agenda that has resemblances with National Socialism.

Here are two more cases of young men praying the rosary out loud, disrupting ecumenical celebrations. The first occurred on October 31, 2017, in Notre Dame des Blancs Manteaux, a Catholic Church in Le Marais, Paris. The video is of good quality; the reactions by ecumenical participants are very interesting. The second occurred this past Friday December 1, 2017, in Saint Irenée Church in Lyon, France. This latter video is short and is of bad quality, like someone took it from his phone.

The group behind these protests is Institut Civitas, which is a false-traditionalist and nationalist civil movement in France that partners with Mouvement de la Jeunesse Catholique de la France (Movement for Catholic Youth of France). When I saw their website's report of their protest, the initial reaction was excitement, admiration... but something about it seemed too good to be true, like it reeked with the stench of compromise. Then, I discovered that Civitas' doctrinal advisor is Abbé Xavier Beauvais, who is the prior of the SSPX in Marseilles. Even his look is awful - see for yourself here.

These protests featuring heroic young men who look like MEN and not pansies are good, and makes it seem like the traditionalist movement is in a healthy condition. But they are being used by SSPX, who, as we know, is compromised to the core.

I am still waiting for the day when more young people will rise up and fight for truth without being manipulated by false-rights, but fully adhering to the Counter-Revolution. I think when this happens, Our Lady will have no choice but to reward us with Her Reign on Earth.

     S.B.



Posted December 7, 2017
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