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Filial Correction Is Right – You Are Wrong


Dear Mr. Guimaraes,

Pope Francis’ program to eliminate in practice the moral teaching of the Church has produced an unprecedented negative reaction from conservative Catholics. I think this is because morals have been their ghetto. It has the only area where they can find support from some of the conciliar popes, and moral theology is the only theological area that a conservative Catholic can enter in good conscience. Now that is being taken away from them, and they are beginning to realize that this is what the Holy Father was elected to accomplish.

So the Holy Father has inadvertently provided a starting point for bringing conservative Catholics to the Faith delivered once and for all to the Saints.

Against this background, I was saddened to see your critique of the Filial Correction. You are in effect saying that until conservative Catholics become traditional Catholics, or at least a lot closer to traditional Catholics than they are now, their efforts are a complete waste of time. Furthermore, you are in effect saying that no one but God will play any role in the reform. I find it hard to think of any position less Catholic in spirit and practice (or better, non-practice).

I think the proper Catholic spirit in which we should seek to reform the Church is shown in the explanation by Bishop Fellay of the SSPX of why he signed the Correctio. He both supports the Correctio and quotes Archbishop Lefebvre’s famous distinction between eternal Rome and modernist Rome. In order words: this is a starting point, though we still have a long way to go.

     In Christo Rege et Maria,

     J.A. McFarland

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The Editor responds:

Dear Mr. J.A. McFarlane,

I thank you for the time you took to write this objection. I am also pleased to acknowledge that you are entitled to your own opinion and I respect it.

You accused me of omitting to consider different tendencies among conservatives and traditionalists and, therefore, of harming the process of the former from becoming the latter.

I do not agree with you. Although I accept that a gradual understanding of the truth can happen in some persons, I believed that those who know better have the obligation to warn those persons that they are not professing the entire truth. This is what I did. I believe that the Catholic truth should be publicly revealed in its fullness.

If those first 62 intellectuals who signed the Filial Correction wanted to be believed and be considered as true Catholics, they should not attack only Pope Francis and cover for the other conciliar Popes, but should expose the ensemble of the six conciliar Popes who taught essentially the same as what Francis does. They also should not base their arguments upon the documents of Vatican II.

No matter what one’s tendency is, he comes under suspicion of being a collaborator with Progressivism when he does what those intellectuals did. Further, the traditionalists who signed a Filial Correction with such flaws are still more suspect of collusion – not excluding your beloved Bishop Bernard Fellay – than the conservative scholars who wrote it.

     Cordially,

     Atila S. Guimarães


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Dom Bosco’s Prophecy Confirms Your 3rd Secret of Fatima


TIA,

The Third secret of Fatima you published (here) is confirmed by The Prophetic vision of St Bosco.

Dom Bosco had a dream where the Pope has to move a Flagship under attack to a new safe port: That new port is described as having Two Pillars, (see prophecy here).

So the Flagship represents the pope's seat (cathedra, authority) which needs to be moved to a safe place, which is not the current place (Rome).

In the dream the Flagship is attacked by other ships with beaks: Those beaks are mentioned as the Churches of Hell in the Authentic third secret.

But what is the place with the two columns?

     M.M.

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Interfaith Dialogue at Catholic University


Hello TIA,

I am reaching out for help because St. John's University in New York is having an Interfaith Dialogue and Dinner on Wednesday October 18th from 5pm to 7pm.

The different faiths will also come together for prayer! I fear for all the students and faculty members' souls!!!

I am just one traditional Catholic, and there is not much my one little voice can do. Please, please help stop this! We need to save souls!

Please reach out to the campus ministry department and send emails expressing your concerns to everyone on the Queens Campus.

If you are feeling adventurous, you can also reach out to the University President and also express your concerns.

I sent them this message "I am a little worried about an Interfaith dialogue and dinner and the damage it will cause to souls. Here is why."

Thank you all very much for your help! God bless you abundantly and may God reward you!

     Best regards,

     J. L..

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TIA responds:

M.P.,

No matter how frequent these interfaith meetings have become and no matter how high  the religious authority that promotes them, they continue to be condemned by the Church as they were when they first appeared.

Indeed, here is how Pope Pius XI condemned them in his Encyclical Mortalium animus:

“Knowing perfectly that there exist few men who are entirely devoid of the religious sense, they [the men who are trying to introduce a sentiment of universal fraternity into the Church] nourish the hope that all the peoples, despite their religious differences, may yet, without great difficulty, be united in the profession of certain doctrines admitted as a common basis of the spiritual life.

With this object, they promote congresses, meetings, and conferences, attended by a considerable number of hearers. To join in the discussion they invite all, without distinction, unbelievers of every kind as well as the faithful, and even those who have disgracefully separated themselves from Christ or rudely and obstinately denied the divinity of His nature and mission. Such efforts can meet with no kind of approval among Catholics, because they support the erroneous opinion that all the religions are more or less good and praiseworthy. ...

“Those who hold such a view fall into an open error; they also reject the true Religion; they distort its tenets and fall gradually into Naturalism and Atheism. Therefore, it is perfectly evident that one who joins with the partisans and propagators of similar doctrine abandons entirely the divinely revealed Religion.”

(Pius XI, Encyclical Mortalium animos, of January 6, 1928
Paris: Bonne Presse, 1928, vol. 4, pp. 64-65)


We hope this document can help you defend yourself and other Catholics from the temptations of this false ecumenism and inter-religious dialogue.

In case you need more confirmations of analogous Catholic teachings you may read here, here, here, here, here, here, and here.

     Cordially,

     TIA correspondence desk


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The Ultimatum, the Defense


To whom it may concern,

Are there still copies of the work The Ultimatum - The Defense by Mr. Guimarães available, or a .pdf available on the Web?

It occurs to me that, perhaps now, many years later, there might be a chance to distribute this work once more, perhaps more covertly, within the TFP.

     Cordially,

     M.J.W.
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TIA responds:

Mr. M.J.W.,

The book The Ultimatum – The Defense, which is defense of Mr. Guimarães against the accusations made by the President of the Brazilian TFP that his work on Council Vatican II was not desired by Prof. Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira will be posted online on TIA website shortly in a PDF file both in English and Portuguese.

We estimate that it will be online within 30 days.

     Cordially,

     TIA correspondence desk


Posted October 17, 2017
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